To all;

The selection of Senator John Edwards as the running mate to Massachusetts liberal John Kerry has gotten me thinking on this choice, as well as some other recent VP candidates.

First of all, the scoop on Edwards, and how he pertains to this years election. The main reason, as it would seem, behind the Edwards choice is the very outermost reasons. He is young (seemingly, he is 51 though), good looking, and very non threatening. He brings very much needed energy and charisma to what has become, quite quickly and quite obviously a dull and rather boring presidential candidate. Edwards brings the flare, personified in that glowing smile, that the media loves. What he brings to this year's election is on the surface; nothing but positive. That is however, essentially the limit of his contribution.

Edwards in reality, brings little to this years election, much less then a Dick Gephardt, or even John McCain would have brought. He has been consistently divisive on several key issues as Kerry. He is rather inexperienced in different facets of governance, especially foreign relations. It is in this field where he becomes the biggest liability. I concede the George W had a relatively equal level of foreign relations experience when he was elected in 2000. His learning mostly came from on the job, and he has done an absolutely remarkable job. Bush's team, which involve some of the most intelligent choices in recent memory definitely assist him in these areas, which is their purpose. Edwards cannot bring states to Democrats side, much less territories. How do the Democrats expect to win the South, with the stereotypical Massachussets as president, and someone who probably would not be re-elected as Senator (Edwards chose not to run for re-election, well before his being selected as Veep). Edwards simply is not ready to become president; in the future perhaps, but not today. Someone like McCain, Gephardt, and yes Dick Cheney could become president if the duty called. Ultimately Edwards is a damaging choice, once you get passed that surface appeal. He certainly does smile purty for the press.

The choice for VP is a very interesting one when it comes to politics as well as politicking. Should it be the runner up in the primaries? Should it be a party loyalist? Should it be a surprise choice? Lets examine the surprise choice first. Kerry pondered the Governor of Iowa, who's name I believe, and corrrect me if I'm wrong, is something like Tom Vilicic. Surprise choices can bring tremendous amounts of appeal, interest, and attention, all very good things. Geraldine Ferraro ran as VP in 1984 with Mondale, the first woman to run as VP for a major party. True, she and Mondale were destroyed by Reagan, but the choice received a lot of attention. Party loyalists, are always pushed for, this year that person was Dick Gephardt. A long time Democrat, it had seemed Gephardt had paid his dues. He was not going to win the presidential nomination, but a VP choice would be the respectful thing to do. This pressure however usually takes the freedom away from the presidential candidate, and that is why they often, ultimately, are not selected. The runner up choice usually takes precedent. We already got the most popular guy on the top of the ticket, why not have second place play second fiddle. Edwards (after the Dean fiasco) was that person. In 2000 it was well known that Bush asked McCain to be his Veep (which he quickly turned down). The runner up selection makes sense numerically speaking, and has somewhat mixed results.

The choice of Edwards is interesting to say the least, and only time will tell how it plays out.

-Mr. Right.

"I knew Jack Kennedy; Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine. You sir are no Jack Kennedy."

-Lloyd Bentsen to Dan Quayle in the 1988 Vice Presidential Debate
after Quayle compared himself to President Kennedy.



Comments
on Jul 13, 2004
I agree with you that had not the whole Howard dean fiasco (that got blown WAY out of proportion) Dean would be a better choice than Edwards. Politically speaking, Kerry and Dean are more alike on key issues.

But I think Edwards will bring more votes to the Kerry/ Edwards campaign than detract from it.

I think the parties main problem with Edwards as a running mate will be that Kerry and Edwards disagree on some issues, and nobody wants a team divided.

I think Edwards charisma and charm will help. He looks young, has an attractive wife and cute Kids.... sounds like a certian Kennedy that won the 1960 election. And look how America loved him...

Although I disagree with some of your views, it is a good article.

~JoLynda
on Jul 13, 2004
"I concede the George W had a relatively equal level of foreign relations experience when he was elected in 2000. His learning mostly came from on the job, and he has done an absolutely remarkable job. "

Do Republicans seriously think that Bush is a good diplomat? Why couldn't he put together an Iraq invasion coalition even half as substantial as GHW Bush's Gulf War Coalition? Why couldn't he isolate France by bringing in Germany? Why couldn't he convince Turkey to allow ground troops to support the invasion? If he is a good diplomat, why is he one of the U.S. Presidents most hated by the rest of the world?
on Jul 13, 2004
If Kerry picks a Secretary of State, such as Wesley Clark, Dick Gephardt (as much as I personally don't like him, he'd make a good Secretary of State), or even Bill Clinton (as much as some people hate Clinton, no one can credibly argue he wasn't a good diplomat...and if they try, just ask anyone involved in the Northern Ireland or Israel Palestine conflicts to shoot down there argument.).............the Kerry administration will have NO problems with Foreign Relations. I can't imagine anyone winning the arguement that the Bush administration has a one-up on foreign relations. Kerry has tons of experience, traveling as a Senator, participating in world summits, having lived and worked abroad, speaking several foreign languages, etc., etc. I don't know too much about Edwards foreign relations experience, but as Vice President you don't serve that role that often. Should he have to become President though, I don't see anything preventing him from being a great diplomat, based on his personality. Bush on the other hand, saying things like, "You're either with us or against us." and "Bring it on." is the most abrasive and reckless Chief Diplomat I have ever seen or read about.
on Jul 13, 2004
Bush's lack of foreign policy experience was (appropriately) noted as a weakness during the 2000 campaign. Had he run as a challenger in a post-9/11 environment, I don't think he would have gotten the nomination, let alone been elected. Certainly foreign policy is a bigger issue now than four years ago, and Bush has gained experience since then. It would be intellectually dishonest though to imply that Bush got a free pass on foriegn policy in 2000.

on Jul 13, 2004
Yeah, Bush has gained four years of experience in foreign policy, but what has he done in that experience. Please name for me Bush's top three foreign policy achievements?
on Jul 13, 2004
1. Overthrowing the Taliban. Bush had worldwide support, including permission from Pakistan to use their country.

2. Overthrowing Saddam. The occupation definitely should have gone better, but the initial invasion was very successful.

3. Securing the release of the hostages from the survelliance plane held in China.
on Jul 13, 2004
1. Anyone could have overthrown the Taliban and had worldwide support after 9/11. I would agree that Bush's number 1 foreign policy accomplishment was getting Musharaf to cooperate.

2. Bush's attempts to build a significant coalition for this were a complete failure. Should have cost us 10% of what it did, both in lives and money.

3. Agreed. He did a good job in that instance, but I would hardly rate that among the U.S.'s great diplomatic accomplishments. China had to give the hostages and plane back. They caused the accident in international territory.
on Jul 13, 2004
Should have cost us 10% of what it did, both in lives and money.


Are you talking about the initial invasion or the occupation?

Germany, Russia, France. How many of those countries would need to be in the coalition to call it significant?
on Jul 13, 2004
There were only two significant contributors (US and UK). Sure you could count 30 countries or whatever as nominal coalition members, but it's pretty pathetic when Bush counts countries that send a dozen policemen, or who allow the US limited use of their airspace after receiving multibillion dollar bribes.

I'd say it would be a "significant" coalition if 50% or more of the cost was borne by other countries--it's not really a coalition if one nation is doing the majority of the work and paying the majority of the bills. The first Gulf War easily qualifies. The second does not.
on Jul 14, 2004
2. Overthrowing Saddam. The occupation definitely should have gone better, but the initial invasion was very successful.


That's got to be right up there with Hiroshima and Nagasaki in terms of the greatest diplomatic achievements in American history.
on Jul 14, 2004
I'd say it would be a "significant" coalition if 50% or more of the cost was borne by other countries


Would you consider the coalitions supporting the Korean War, Kosovo intervention, and Afghanistan invasion to be significant?




I would definitely consider winning World War II to be one of the greatest foreign policy achievements in American history.